# The new UI is terrible
**URL:** https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689
**Category:** Lens General
**Created:** [October 5, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689 "2024-10-05T01:20:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@jakolehm](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/jakolehm)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/42 "2024-12-19T11:39:19Z")
> [@docker](#):
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> There is an incredible latency when switching between tabs (I am using the Windows release 2024.11.261604-latest).
Could you post a screen recording of this behavior (maybe as a separate thread here on the forums)? This is not known issue for us.
> [@docker](#):
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> All my clusters are now displayed in an endless scrolling list, whereas previously, I had large icons for my favorites.
`CTRL+P` (cluster search) might help here, did you already try that?
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### Author:  [@michael.k](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/michael.k)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/43 "2024-12-19T16:58:00Z")
This is not fair to make addicted over years to a nice, simple and convenient UI with somewhat modern design and then release a complete overhaul that looks like an enterprise app from 10 years back.
The UI is just terrible in overall, it doesn’t look like a fancy app anymore, it’s not catchy. I’d guess primarily because of new navigation bar with its complex tree view, and the small font size. The tabs experience is also annoying - I wonder if majority of users really asked for that.
I understand it may sound like regular “oh they changed the app, bring it back”, but the UX changes are just like switching to completely different audience. The functionality looks same to me as before, but there is no joy using it anymore. Like with any enterprise software. It’s sad.
Update: actually I must admit that the workload details view looks better than before.
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### Author:  [@wesley.chow.io](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/wesley.chow.io)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2024, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/44 "2024-12-20T06:31:42Z")
Really curious about the reason for the change. When users are accustomed to a certain way of operating, a sudden change in user experience can lead to disastrous results.
Thanks to @a.bauer 's prev version, saved my day!
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### Author:  [@cbds079](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/cbds079)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/45 "2024-12-30T08:45:43Z")
The issue is that the legacy UI had excellent discoverability and really helped to mitigate the complexity if Kubernetes. It was useful both for power users and novice developers who need to migrate away from Docker-centric workflows. I can’t advocate for purchasing licenses if I can’t make the novice use case.
The goal of having enhanced discoverability of EKS clusters is valid, but if you could make that work with the legacy UI it would be a huge win. It should be an orthogonal feature that you can toggle in the UI, and there needs to be a UI element that does what the Hotbar did even if you implement it in a different way. Also with regard to larger font support, some people require that for accessibility reasons.
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### Author:  [@vasyansk](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/vasyansk)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/46 "2024-12-30T08:45:48Z")
how do i disable auto-update every time i restart the panel ? i don’t want to go to the horrible new UI, i want to work in version 8 ?
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### Author:  [@trejo08](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/trejo08)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/47 "2024-12-30T08:45:57Z")
That’s horrible, very slowness and it’s a mess when you need to work with multiple clusters at many companies or organizations, it’s hard when you are working with many resources with multi clusters comparing between environments and you have a mess of tabs opened and for that reasong it’s draining your memory, please take back the old version
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### Author:  [@mboncalo](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/mboncalo)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2025, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/48 "2025-01-02T07:54:14Z")
It’s hard to say in words how bad is the new version, it is unusable, I have no idea what UI guys were thinking.
I keep hearing things like “we will improve that, work on that feature” There is no such thing, the only possible improvement would be to admit this change was a total failure and revert to the old version.
I actually panicked when I started my upgraded lens after holiday, I practically couldn’t use it at all
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### Author:  [@dalej](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/dalej)
#### Post date: [January 6, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/49 "2025-01-06T18:31:07Z")
Just reverted to the old version as described [here](https://docs.k8slens.dev/faq/technical-faq/#how-do-i-roll-back-to-the-previous-version-of-lens-desktop). Thanks @jakolehm for the instructions. Please include changes to keep cluster resources together like [this post](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/roll-back-and-feedback-on-the-new-ux/3668/22?).
Resources grouped together from many clusters/namespaces only separated by a tab seems too make it very easy to make a critical mistake. I like the tabs and the new look, but this makes it difficult to determine what K8’s resource you are operating on if many tabs are open at the same time. Again really like the tabs, just need to group cluster resources together, I simply do not like the mixing of many different cluster resources. Please create better separation at the cluster level.
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### Author:  [@docker](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/docker)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/50 "2025-01-09T17:46:09Z")
Personally, I reverted to the last version of Lens with the old UI (Lens.2024.11.62028-latest.exe), as the latest version is completely unusable for managing all the clusters I handle.
However, this `.exe` file now runs as a standalone application instead of an installer. The startup process is slower, and I can no longer find the location of the Lens metrics manifests.
I need to modify the taints and the images or versions, but this seems to no longer be possible.
Am I missing something?
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### Author:  [@mot256](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/mot256)
#### Post date: [January 10, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/51 "2025-01-10T14:35:36Z")
I also would love the hot-bar (or something similar) to come back! New UI is just too painful to navigate many clusters.
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### Author:  [@m11](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/m11)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2025, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/52 "2025-01-13T09:10:34Z")
How do we disable the auto-update feature in the old version of Lens (2024.8.291605)?
A few weeks ago, I used Lens without any problems, but now it updates itself during startup, and I have to roll it back each time.
Why is the Lens team forcing us to upgrade? Fix all the UI problems first!
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### Author:  [@phorsmalahti](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/phorsmalahti)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2025, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/53 "2025-01-13T09:11:29Z")
You can use this version: [Technical FAQ - Lens Documentation](https://docs.k8slens.dev/faq/technical-faq/#how-do-i-roll-back-to-the-previous-version-of-lens-desktop)
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### Author:  [@docker](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/docker)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/54 "2025-01-13T21:00:46Z")
Has Mirantis discussed the possibility of reverting to the old UI, or is [Lens.2024.11.62028-latest.exe](https://api.k8slens.dev/binaries/Lens.2024.11.62028-latest.exe) the final version (previous UI) that will no longer be maintained?
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### Author:  [@m11](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/m11)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/55 "2025-01-13T22:01:13Z")
I use this version, but it does auto-update after restart
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### Author:  [@vasyansk](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/vasyansk)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/56 "2025-01-14T02:17:17Z")
On macos the auto-update happens every time ((
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### Author:  [@armestam](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/armestam)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/57 "2025-01-14T08:20:10Z")
The tabs and namespace selection system in the new lens is hot garbage. It is so bad it compelled me to come here and complain about it.
For example, why does clicking anything open a new tab? I want to move in the tab I am currently in. This works nothing like a browser.
The namespace selection dropdown is also a mess. It proritizes adding context instead of switching context. For example when I click a new namespace I don’t want to add that namespace to the current list. I want to switch to it. It makes it so I have to explicitly uncheck another namespace.
This whole thing is such a disaster. I am looking for alternative apps.
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### Author:  [@jgreben](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/jgreben)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/58 "2025-01-14T08:20:31Z")
Please bring back Sticky searching across cluster objects (pods, deployments, configs, etc.). I do not like to have to retype my regex search in each cluster category. Please bring back the old selection of namespaces where you can completely switch namespaces by clicking on the namespace name, or toggle on and off multiple namespaces. Having to check and uncheck namespaces is an extra click.
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### Author:  [@jakolehm](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/jakolehm)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2025, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/59 "2025-01-14T11:53:35Z")
> Also with regard to larger font support, some people require that for accessibility reasons.
Currently, you can adjust the font size by navigating to **View → Zoom In** , which increases the overall interface size, including fonts. However, if this does not fully address the accessibility needs, we would greatly appreciate additional details about the specific requirements.
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### Author:  [@m11](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/m11)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2025, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/60 "2025-01-16T10:25:11Z")
@jakolehm How to disable the auto-update feature in the old version? It’s so annoying. I have to reinstall the old version every time.
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### Author:  [@jakolehm](https://forums.k8slens.dev/u/jakolehm)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.k8slens.dev/t/the-new-ui-is-terrible/3689/61 "2025-01-16T14:39:18Z")
Yes we know it’s annoying and that’s why we created a version that does not auto-update automatically from the legacy version. See [FAQ](https://docs.k8slens.dev/faq/technical-faq/#how-do-i-roll-back-to-the-previous-version-of-lens-desktop) for the download links.
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